446: Nick Searcy—Justify This

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

4.8 • 39.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Actor, director, and pseudo-troublemaker Nick Searcy is back! Nick recounts what he saw at the Capitol on January 6 and why he made Capital Punishment and its sequel, The War on Truth. Also discussed is Nick’s unfiltered memoir, Justify This: A Career Without Compromise, where he shares stories from his long career in Hollywood, and a new project about gospel singers that might just redeem him—at least a little. It’s a conversation full of laughs, sharp elbows, and more than a few surprises.

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0:00.0	You are about to hear another episode of The Way I Heard it with me, Mike Rowe, and the one and only, Chuck Klausmeier.
0:09.9	Yes, hello.
0:12.0	Yes.
0:13.0	Yes, to what?
0:13.9	Yes, you'll hear me, but you'll basically hear Nick Searcy more than me.
0:17.9	That's true.
0:18.7	That's true.
0:19.3	Of the three of us, you will be heard very little. The least.
0:23.2	The least. But still, you do chime in with a couple of interesting points. Very important stuff.
0:28.1	Earth-shattering, really, when you think about it. Nick Searcy is our friend. Well, he's your friend.
0:33.9	You've known him for a long time. You introduced us virtually about a year and a half ago
0:39.0	after he did a movie that Dam near got him canceled and caused me no amount of grief either.
0:45.9	Capital punishment was the film Nick did in the aftermath of January 6th.
0:52.6	And you know what? I just thought it was worth talking about. And it wasn't a big political conversation, but I was glad to have it. I've always liked the guy. You know him from Justified. You might know him from Fried Green Tomatoes or maybe 40 other films that he's done. He's a terrific character actor. He's written his first book. It's called
1:11.7	Justify This. It is funny. It is smart. I mean, if you know, Nick, you're going to get this
1:17.9	great blend of honesty. I mean, he's very much like Art Mullin in Justified. Yes. And he said
1:25.8	that that character is based on his father. So he's really kind of sort of playing his father, it seems. Yeah. So that's a plug for Justified. It's, if you haven't seen every season of it, you really should. It's terrific. Yep. His book is great. He's got a new project that he's working on as well called Where I'm Bound, which we get into, and he's got a follow-up
1:46.8	to capital punishment because he's a glutton for punishment. For punishment, right? Yeah. That's called
1:54.2	The War on Truth, and it's a four-part series, which is available online. I admire him. I admire him because he has plenty to lose,
2:03.7	and he simply doesn't want to spend the rest of his life doing anything that doesn't matter to him.
2:09.3	And, you know, when you find people like that in this industry, you might not agree with them,
2:14.1	but you'd be foolish to ignore them. You can just learn so much, I think, from people
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