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Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

444 – Damnit, Magnus

Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes

Arts, Books, Visual Arts

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In which it’s difficult to flee with soup; Miles may or may not be haunting the X-Men; Colossus collaborates involuntarily; Marrow is full of surprises; Magneto is a dick; Jay continues to carry a torch for Secret Wars: Siege; and you should totally come to our birthday party. X-PLAINED: Several rather pointed allusions X-Force #86 Uncanny X-Men #365 X-Men #85 Almost Reno, NM Where mutants come from The Aguilar Institute (more) (again) Abandoned towns Mary the telepathic moppet (more) (again) Odysseus Indigo The Damocles Foundation Sibling names The Fundamental Attribution Error A haunting Christmas beer Christmas ghost exquisite corpse Bill Jones A rescue mission Essential stories of the ‘90s Our weird favorites Siege Our upcoming 10th birthday party (more) (again) NEXT EPISODE: Magneto War begins! Check out the visual companion to this episode on our blog! RSVP to our birthday shenanigans! Find us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men is 100% ad-free and listener supported. If you want to help support the podcast–and unlock more cool stuff–you can do that right here! Buy rad swag at our TeePublic shop!

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0:00.0

Hey Jay, so I know we're past all the non-mutant heroes disappearing after onslaught, but I've been thinking about that whole thing.

0:08.0

Where did the heroes go?

0:10.0

Counter-Earth.

0:12.0

Ooy, that planet full of animal people built by the high evolutionary?

0:16.0

Oh no, not that counter-Earth.

0:18.0

This counter-Earth was a pocket universe that Franklin Richards built inside a toy ball,

0:21.0

kind of, where all the supposedly dead heroes ended up while everyone in the main Marvel universe thought they were dead.

0:26.0

Ah, well, I know all the X-team stuck around Earth 616, so did like all the non X teams go to the less high version of

0:36.9

counter Earth?

0:38.0

They did not. For instance, the New Warriors were still around on Earth 616. Yeah, but the new warriors have some mutants on their team, like Firestar, and that confusing Vance

0:48.2

Astrovic guy.

0:49.2

Yeah, but I mean, they're not an X team.

0:51.2

Fair.

0:52.2

So I know the various mutant teams... they're not an X team. Fair.

0:53.0

So I know the various mutant teams talked a ton about onslaught

0:56.4

and the other heroes disappearing.

0:58.4

Did that affect the new warriors, too?

1:00.2

Oh, yeah, but not necessarily in the ways you'd expect.

1:03.3

What? Did they, I don't know, struggle to fill the void left by the more experienced

1:08.1

Avengers or something?

1:09.3

I guess, but what I was thinking of was the time they fought Hydra's Pearl Sect whose greedy villainy turned out to be an allegory for Marvel farming out the post- onslaught

1:17.5

Avengers books to the folks who'd left to start Image comics like Roblyfell, Jim Lee, etc.

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