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The Talk Show With John Gruber

443: ‘The Pogue Feature’, With David Pogue

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Special guest David Pogue discusses his excellent, entertaining, and amazingly comprehensive new book, “Apple: The First 50 Years”.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's your internet pal, John Gruber. I've got David Pogue on the show for this episode,

0:06.3

the author of many, many books, but author of the new book, Apple, the first 50 years.

0:13.9

David is in the midst of a very, very tightly packed media tour to promote the book,

0:19.3

and his time is really limited. It was really

0:22.8

kind of serendipitous that I got him at all. I got him right out off an airplane after he arrived

0:28.8

in Seattle, after being in Portland, didn't have the length of time. I would love to have had him.

0:35.1

So it's a little bit shorter of an episode than usual, even though we could have gone longer than usual.

0:41.8

And because his time was limited, literally he did like gotten off an airplane and he had to go to an event.

0:47.6

I didn't want to interrupt the show to do my sponsor reads live.

0:52.0

So I'm going to unusually for the talk show, record them in posts,

0:57.2

and we'll insert them in editing. And the first one, I'll just knock it out right here,

1:02.3

is our good friends at Factor. Hey, Factor makes healthy eating easy with fully prepared meals

1:08.9

designed by dieticians and crafted by chefs.

1:12.1

You can eat well without the planning or cooking.

1:16.5

There's all sorts of companies that make meal kits that get delivered to you and then they

1:21.4

come with all the ingredients and they are great.

1:24.0

You take the ingredients and you follow the recipe and you prepare a meal. Factor, the meals are

1:30.2

already cooked. These are cooked meals that come, but they're fresh. They come like meal kits in a box

1:36.9

that it has dry ice because it's refrigerated. Everything is fresh, really high quality

1:42.7

functional ingredients, including stuff like lean proteins,

1:46.3

colorful veggies, whole food ingredients, healthy fats, no refined sugars, no artificial sweeteners,

1:51.8

no refined seed oils. They have over a hundred rotating weekly meals to keep things fresh,

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