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Better Than Happy

443. Love Like Jesus with Ben Schilaty

Better Than Happy

Jody Moore

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Self-improvement, Education

4.85.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Whether you’re an LGBTQ individual and want to hear from other church members about their experiences, or you want to learn more so you can be a better ally, today’s episode is for you.

I'm joined by therapist, author, and podcaster, Ben Schilaty to explore a new perspective on LGBTQ individuals and the doctrine of the LDS Church. We’re discussing the struggles that church members experience when coming to terms with their sexuality, and we’re looking at how we as a community can change our collective approach to supporting the LGBTQ members of the LDS Church.

Get full show notes and more information here: https://jodymoore.com/443

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode 443, Love Like Jesus with Ben Shalati.

0:07.0

Over 25 years ago when one of my siblings came out as gay while attending Brigham Young University, I searched the internet for answers,

0:15.8

examples, or even forums to openly and respectfully discuss this topic and I found nothing.

0:23.0

Thankfully, today that's changing a bit.

0:26.0

And one individual who has contributed significantly in this space

0:30.0

is my guest on today's podcast Ben Shalati.

0:34.0

Whether you're LGBTQ and wanting to hear from other church members about their experience

0:40.0

or you want to learn more to be a better ally.

0:43.3

Today's episode is just for you.

0:48.6

Welcome to Better Than Happy.

0:50.5

I'm Jody Moore, and I'll be your coach today.

0:53.0

Ben Shalati is someone who I have known via the internet.

0:58.0

We are internet friends for a while.

1:01.0

We actually did meet in person last year at Charlie Bird's book signing, I think it was.

1:06.4

But at any rate, I was so delighted when it finally worked out to get him on to the podcast because I have actually been following and learning from him for a very long time and I just have so much respect for this man.

1:21.0

I appreciate so much the insight that I've gained around the topic of

1:25.6

LGBT-Q individuals and the doctrine of our church. I think that he is just a great example, not the example, and I think you'll hear in this conversation

1:36.1

he's not claiming to know the right way for anybody to live their life, whether they're

1:41.5

LGBTQ or heterosexual or in the church or not a member of the church.

1:48.4

This is not about creating a model for how to live your life.

1:53.5

And Ben is the first to say that,

1:56.2

and I think you'll hear that in this conversation,

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