442: Salena Zito—America's Journalist

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

4.8 • 39.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Salena Zito is a prolific author, award-winning reporter, and our great friend. No one knows the heartland like Salena, and she’s here to discuss the future of AI and the energy needed to pursue it, the sudden resurgence of interest in the skilled trades and how Pennsylvania is helping lead the way, and her brand-new book, Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America’s Heartland. Salena gives a firsthand account since she was just four feet away from Trump when it happened.

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0:00.0	Well, hello friends. It's Mike Rowe. It's the way I heard it. And we don't do the episode thing anymore, do we?
0:10.0	Well, you can in this case, because I know it's going to be episode 442.
0:14.0	All right. So it's episode 442. Some old habits are coming back because I'm not in person today.
0:24.6	We're doing this long distance because our guest is a very big deal.
0:25.6	Big deal.
0:28.5	Big, busy deal.
0:30.3	Some might say huge.
0:31.9	Now, careful.
0:34.2	You may be creating an expectation.
0:36.7	Not that big.
0:37.9	Not that big. Not that big.
0:39.4	But pretty big.
0:43.5	Selina Zito is back with us for, I don't know, maybe the fourth time, third, fourth, fifth time.
0:43.9	Fourth, I think it's fourth, yeah.
0:45.1	Fourth.
0:46.1	You'll hear me say this to her momentarily, face to virtual face, but I'm just so proud
0:50.9	of my friend for the career she's led and for what's happened to her
0:57.5	and around her in this last year.
1:00.5	Her new book is called Butler because she was four feet from President Trump when he was
1:06.4	very nearly assassinated.
1:08.4	And she's written a book in part about that day, but about some other things,
1:13.9	too, that are relevant and adjacent. And I think really interesting. Have you had a chance to read
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