This is a Jocko podcast number 441 with Echo Charles and me Jocko Willing.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

On January 27th, 1838, Abraham Lincoln delivered a speech to the Young Men's lyceum of Springfield, Illinois.

Lincoln saw this is an opportunity to underscore the vital importance of the rule of law,

particularly as it relates to threats to U.S. institutions.

What follows is an excerpt from that speech that deserves our serious contemplation. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected?

I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction

be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.

As a nation of free men, we must live through all time

or die by suicide.

Abraham Lincoln.

And that right there is an excerpt from a new book. The book is called for love of country. It's written by Tullsey Gabbard. Member of the Hawaii House of Representatives,

member of Honolulu City Council, Vice Chair

of the Democratic National Committee for a little while.

She served four terms.

That's eight years as U.S. Representative for Hawaii's second congressional

district.

She ran for president as a Democrat in 2020 presidential race, but she did not win her party's nomination.

Despite her experience and intelligence and proven leadership, they nominated someone else a guy named

Joe Biden but she's still in the mix and maybe she's even more in the mix right

now than she ever has been before she's been on this podcast a couple times in the

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