Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

A conversation today is with scale AIs, public sector, general General Manager John Brennan.

We recorded this conversation at the Reagan National Defense Forum earlier this month in

Simi Valley, California.

The basic theme of our conversation is something John's written a lot about, this idea that for as long as most of us can remember before 2023 really became the year that everyone talked about AI, we saw AI the challenges and opportunities attached to the concept as just being this hypothetical

that we would confront in a quasi-sifi future.

However, it has been made pretty clear this year, all of these challenges and and opportunity very much in the here and

now so our conversation focuses on how scale John and how all of us could think

about this present moment instead of seeing this as something it's going to happen in the near future.

Hope you all enjoy the conversation and of course a huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation

for supporting the work of this podcast and to all of you listeners as we near the end of a very great year for the show.

John Brennan, welcome to the realignment.

Thank you so much, Marshall.

Glad to be here.

I don't normally like beginning with biographies,

but you are, in this case, the other John Brennan

when it comes to National Security Circles.

So I think this would be a helpful way for you just to kick things off.

You're at scale obviously, you're leading public sector, but you've got a really interesting background that

would put you in this position.

Yeah, I met Director Brennan before.

He's an amazing leader as well. My family started as FBI agents, so the choice

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