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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

439 | Adjusting to Life After FI (Before You Get There)

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Business, Careers

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Your daily routine evaporates the instant you leave your job—but most people obsessing over their FI number never prepare for what happens next. Chris Terrell left his career in April 2020, right as the pandemic began, and discovered that achieving financial independence was just the beginning of a much larger journey. While the FI community excels at optimizing savings rates and investment strategies, the psychological transition to unstructured time often catches people completely off guard. Brad Barrett speaks with Chris about the realities of life after reaching FI, focusing on the mental adjustments that numbers alone can't solve. The conversation covers identity shifts when work no longer defines you, the challenge of filling formerly structured days with meaningful activities, and why waiting until you hit your FI number to think about purpose is a recipe for disappointment. Key Topics Introduction to Life After FI [00:01:45] The transition after achieving financial independence brings adjustments that extend far beyond spreadsheets and withdrawal rates. The Importance of Psychological Preparation [00:03:00] Achieving FI isn't solely about financial numbers; mental preparation is crucial. Expect changes in daily routines and relationships that you haven't anticipated. Adjusting to Unstructured Time [00:12:14] Moving from structured work days to complete freedom can be disorienting. Finding purpose before you need it prevents the empty feeling many experience post-retirement. Finding Purpose in Retirement [00:20:09] Hobbies, volunteering, teaching, and maintaining meaningful relationships help fill unstructured time with fulfillment rather than anxiety. Conclusion and Final Thoughts [00:57:25] Proactive planning for activities and identity beyond work makes the transition to FI sustainable and rewarding. Key Actions Start exploring interests now to incorporate into your retirement plan [00:10:10] Reflect on identity changes before retirement and plan accordingly [00:04:35] Schedule time for personal development to prepare for the transition to FI [00:20:09] Use unstructured time to explore passions without pressure to over-optimize [00:12:14] Notable Quotes "Achieving FI isn't just about the numbers; it's about preparing for life changes." [00:01:25] "Your daily routine just disappears overnight." [00:04:00] "Start considering your life beyond the numbers before you hit FI." [00:10:10] "Finding a sense of purpose after retiring is crucial." [00:12:14] Related Resources Five Frugal Hobbies - Episode 429 [00:00:02] ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 442 — Intermediate Travel Rewards | Essential Listening

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose a Fire today on the show. I have my good friend Chris Terrell back for another episode

0:06.0

I introduced him on episode 429 where we talked about five frugal hobbies

0:11.4

And I think that convinced more than a couple of you both with strategy board games and pickleball more interestingly as Chris is a

0:18.8

avid avid pickleball player and

0:21.1

Today he's back and I suspect this is gonna be the second of many episodes because we have so many interesting things to talk about

0:27.9

But we're talking today of you've reached five and what does it look like to make that adjustment?

0:33.8

What does life after five look like Chris left his job in April of 2020?

0:38.7

Which of course as we all know was a pretty interesting time to do so amidst the start of the COVID pandemic

0:44.4

But preparing for five is a multi-year journey truly and we've talked about that many times here in the podcast that you need to prepare for this

0:53.7

This is not just a zero or one situation of oh, I've hidden number on a screen

0:58.6

I'm gonna stop working and expect my life to be roses and kittens and unicorns. It doesn't work that way and

1:05.8

Chris has just a really interesting perspective on this so really excited for this episode with that welcome to choose a fire

1:12.8

I

1:20.1

Bread thanks so much for having me back really looking forward to our discussion today

1:23.9

Yeah, Chris. I am super excited for this. I think this is such a critical

1:28.9

Conversation because I think a lot of people especially when they first get into fire they get so excited about about the numbers and

1:37.3

Rightfully so to some degree, right? It's hey for the first time you have a little space financially

1:42.8

You maybe eventually get to that point where you have some freedom you have that that elusive FU money, right?

1:48.5

The the freedom unlimited money is Jonathan O's used to joke and you have that power and it feels good

1:54.0

And I think people then kind of extrapolate that too. Oh, this is just about the numbers and oh

1:59.9

Won't my life be so fantastic when I hit that dollar figure that denotes I'm at five

2:05.9

Whatever that means to you 25 times your annual expense is 30 33 times whatever it may be

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