436: I Bend So Many Spoons

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Myke, Hurley, Amazon, Apple, Snell, Jason, Tech, Streaming, Media, Technology

4.5 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2022

⏱️ 138 minutes

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Summary

John Siracusa returns to the show to chat about Jason's recent visit to his house, Mac app development, Apple's brain drain, TSMC breaking ground in Arizona, the problems with AI training models, the current state of macOS, and what makes a Good Product.

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0:00.0	From RelayFM, this is Upgrade Episode 436.
0:14.0	Today's show is brought to you by Storyworth,
0:16.5	Capital One, and Unipiece Arvins.
0:19.8	Here is your host, Jason Snow.
0:22.5	Thank you, Mike.
0:23.4	Hello, everybody.
0:24.4	We are back for another Mike List,
0:25.8	almost episode of Upgrade.
0:28.0	I am Jason Snow, and I am hosting this episode
0:31.3	with a very special guest returning to Upgrade
0:34.9	for the, I actually have lost count,
0:36.7	half a dozen, or so time.
0:38.6	It is, John, Sarah Cusa.
0:40.0	Hi, John.
0:41.1	When you say Mike List, we both have Mike's in front of us,
0:44.7	but that's okay, right?
0:45.5	You didn't hear the why, didn't you?
0:47.2	No.
0:48.2	Has it like tire with a why?
0:50.7	It is.
0:51.5	I just put that together.
0:52.6	Yeah, but not, not choir,
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