435: OS 8, Not So Great

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Myke, Hurley, Amazon, Apple, Snell, Jason, Tech, Streaming, Media, Technology

4.5 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2022

⏱️ 145 minutes

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Summary

John Gruber joins Jason on Upgrade for the first time. Topics include eWorld, Apple's iPhone production problems in China, FIFA and Qatar and the World Cup, the reasons behind Apple's sports ambitions, BBEdit, regular expressions, Perl and Python, MarsEdit, nanotexture displays, webcams, and the state of the art in ADB-to-USB adapters. Happy Cyber Monday to all those who celebrate!

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0:00.0	From Relay FM, this is Upgrade episode 435.
0:13.8	Today's show is brought to you by Zock-Dock, Trade Coffee, and ExpressVPN.
0:18.5	And here's your host, Jason Snow.
0:20.7	Thank you, Mike Hurley.
0:22.5	I am Jason Snow, and I am joined by our very special guest for this very special episode
0:26.8	of Upgrade.
0:28.0	It's John Gruber sitting in for Mike Hurley.
0:30.4	John, welcome to Upgrade.
0:32.4	I turned the tables on you.
0:34.1	It's a pleasure to be here.
0:35.4	I'm worried, though, because I know that I do not have the melodious voice of Mike Hurley.
0:40.6	I think people are in for a rough episode of Upgrade in terms of soothing melodious tone of voice.
0:50.3	Yeah, and the nice British accent, which makes this a multi-national show.
0:56.6	Now, it's just the, well, it's East Coast West Coast, though.
0:59.2	We still are like some variety, a little bit of variety among the, the sameness of American voices.
1:08.6	Mike is on vacation this week and next.
1:11.0	So I have asked some, some pals to drop in and join me for Upgrade.
1:16.4	And John, I've been on the talk show a lot, but I don't think I've ever had you on Upgrade.
1:20.1	So thank you for being here.
1:21.3	I really do appreciate it.
1:22.6	I can tell you, for certain, I've never been here.
1:24.5	So all right.
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