435 - Sourcing Exotic Barrels with Jessica Ann of H&A Barrel Management

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🗓️ 9 November 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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The trend of cask finished whiskey is here to stay. It's run rampant over the past few years to the point that every single company has one. But how are barrels sourced? How many times can a barrel be used before it longer gives off those different flavors? To answer these questions and a lot more, I've invited Jessica Ann from H&A Barrel Management on the show. We've had the pleasure of knowing Jessica for many years. She recently got herself into the market of brokering barrels for different cask finishes. Jessica gives us the low-down on wine and exotic oak finishes and how difficult they can be to attain. There's a lot to break down such as types of oak, toast level, and if cooperage reputation has any prestige. With the wide variety available, we're going to see even more trends hit the market soon. Show Notes: Above the Char with Fred Minnick (@fredminnick) talks if Pappy is a NDP. How did you and Fred connect? How many times can a barrel be used for wine aging? Why is French Oak the preferred type for wine? If I need barrels, what do you have readily available? What does STR mean? How are different barrels valued? How many times can those barrels be re-used? In the used barrel market are there cooperages that have more prestige? What are some of the newest barrels people want that aren't common? Do customer's ever request different toast and char levels? How do you properly read a wine barrel? Talk about your barrel leasing program. How do you find out about the various oak species available? @bourboninsider Support this podcast on Patreon

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0:00.0	He's not here today because this was also during his jiu-jitsu time.
0:03.2	Oh, good. I'm glad he's not here.
0:05.9	I'll make sure that's in the podcast.
0:07.4	Don't put that in there.
0:08.5	That'll be the opener.
0:09.1	Mm-hmm.
0:27.2	This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news,
0:32.9	reviews, and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen, and I'm one of your host,
0:38.7	Kenny Coleman. The trend of cask-finished whiskey, it's here to stay. You know it's not going anywhere because it's run rampant over the past few years to the point where every single company has
0:43.4	one of their portfolio. But how are barrels sourced? How many times can a barrel be used
0:48.3	before it no longer gives off those different flavors? And to answer that question and a lot more,
0:53.7	I've invited Jessica
0:54.8	Ann from H&A barrel management to come on the show. We've had the pleasure of knowing Jessica
0:59.5	for many years, and she's recently gotten herself into the market of brokering barrels for
1:04.6	different cask finishes. Jessica gives us the lowdown on wine and exotic oak finishes and how
1:10.8	difficult they can be to obtain.
1:12.9	There's a lot to break down such as types of oak, toast levels, and if Cooper's reputation
1:17.8	has any prestige. With the wide variety available, we're going to see even more trends hit the
1:23.4	market in the near future. And with that, enjoy this week's episode. And now here's Fred
1:28.8	Minnick with Above the Char. I'm Fred Minnick, and this is Above the Char. This week's idea comes from
1:38.9	Kenneth Wayne Kitchler, who writes me on fredminnick.com. I am fascinated by all the amazing NDPs out there and have two questions regarding them. One is Pappy Van Winkle and NDP. Seems like to me they are but curious on your thoughts. Two, why don't Kentucky distilled products disclose who the actual distiller is? Hmm. If it is distilled in Tennessee or Indiana, we generally know where it was distilled, but if it is Kentucky,
2:05.3	you usually don't know.
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