Is being a speciesist as bad as being a racist? Dr. Logan Gage is next.

Hello and welcome to Focus. The Catholic Games was podcasts for living understanding and

defending your Catholic faith. I'm Sy Kelly, your host, and one of the things that we've been saying

for years is in order to defend the Catholic faith, more and more, you have to defend basic reality.

And among the realities that we're being encouraged not to notice, as a matter of fact,

to fight against is that humans are distinct in this world. Humans are not like the other creatures

or inanimate objects of this world. To have that view is increasingly being called speciesism.

So are we speciesists? And if we are, is that akin to being a racist or a sexist? Is it an evil

that's in our biases that we need to overcome? We need a philosopher to deal with that. And that's

what we got. Dr. Logan Gage from Franciscan University. And here's what he had to say.

Dr. Logan Gage from Franciscan University in Student Bill. Thanks for being with us again.

Have a beer. Thank you. We always enjoy our opportunity to get to talk with you.

And I want to start by sharing my insecurities with you. I don't like on Twitter when I'm called a

racist or a homophobe or, and there's a lot of words that you got to avoid being called.

Now I'm scared of the word speciesist. Should I be scared of being called a speciesist?

It's very frightening. Well, it's a, yeah, this is a powerful term that's being used by

some of our secular friends to describe people that are as bad as racist in that they don't think

that humans are equal to all animals, right? Those of us who resist the view that we,

there's something special about humans that isn't special about chickens, for instance,

and that are willing to eat chickens. We are supposed to be the equivalent of racist in this

regard as speciesists. Well, okay, so it is, and PETA has made, I noticed when I did a speciesist

search on the internet and really a lot, this is a major campaign from PETA, the people for

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