Welcome to the Natural Better Show. I'm your host Paul Vogelsang and this is episode number

433.

As part of our Smithsonian Associates Art of Living series, we're speaking today to Carol Ann

Lloyd Stanger.

Carol Ann Lloyd Stanger is a returning guest, a not old better show favorite, and today's show

is going to be all about royal family drama.

Caroland Lloyd Stanger will answer the question.

Can a family conflict change the history of England and Europe?

Well, when it's the Plantagenet family, the answer is yes.

Henry the 6th weakness as a medieval king led to a challenge for power, resulting in a series of battles and power grabs known as the War of the Roses.

Tudor, scholar Carol and Lloyd Stanger joins us today and traces this tumultuous history from

its earliest origins through its years of

conflicts to its final result, the establishment of the most powerful family of

the 16th century, the two years.

Please join me in welcoming to the Natal Better Show, Carol Ann Lloyd Stanger.

Carol Ann Lloyd Stanger, thank you so much for joining us today.

It is always a pleasure to talk to you, so welcome. Thank you so much for joining us today. It is always a pleasure to talk to you. So welcome.

Thank you. I'm so glad to be here with you and your Lipschutz.

We all love talking to you. You've been on the show of course before, very popular, always so popular. These subjects are, well frankly, they're in the

news a lot. We're going to get there at some point, but your upcoming presentation is on the War of the Roses and so I wonder if you tell us a little

bit about that upcoming presentation. It's sold out. We're going to put links up to where

listeners can jump on to the wait list.

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