Grumpy old geeks a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schultmeister and Jason

DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and

who's to blame.

Welcome to Grumpy old geeks I'm Jason DeFilippo and I'm Brian Schultmeister

morning Jason. Good morning good evening good afternoon whatever day it is. I

know it's it's getting the what day is it joke has gotten so stale it's just but

last night I went to bed like it's seven o'clock because why stay awake I woke

up completely refreshed it was dark I'm like oh my god this is fantastic get a

big stretch pet the dogs I'm like hey guys it's from ready to hit the day and I

looked at my clock and it was nine o'clock at night I slept for two hours.

Well it's gonna be a long night. I think everybody can arbitrarily call it a new

day at this point if they want to make your own hours who cares. Yeah pretty much

great. Yeah so we got a little bit of follow-up here zoom zoom security

woes have been no secret to business partners for years such as Dropbox. One

year ago two Australian hackers found themselves on an eight hour flight to

sing- can you imagine we've only been doing this for a month or something like

that but the idea of being on an eight hour flight to Singapore seems like a

different lifetime to me already but that's what they were on they were going to

attend a live hacking competition sponsored by Dropbox so up in the plane with

nothing but the crappy internet connection that one gets up there used to get

up there back when there was life. They decided to get ahead start by hacking

zoom a video conferencing service they knew was used by many Dropbox employees

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