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The Talk Show With John Gruber

433: ‘Meat Bags’, With Brian Mueller

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Brian Mueller, developer of Carrot Weather, joins the show to commemorate the 10th anniversary of his utterly ridiculous but totally serious weather app.

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0:00.0

Brian Mueller. It's welcome to the show. I asked you just before we started whether your surname was

0:05.7

pronounced like Robert Mueller of Mueller report fame, and it turns out it's not. Is this something

0:10.8

that people with your surname have to go through all of life? Yeah, especially after all the

0:16.2

news with that. But yeah, it just rhymes with Ferris Bueller. I get that all the time instead.

0:23.7

I have been meaning to have you on the show for so long, and I feel like it, anyway,

0:28.8

you are the developer, author, mastermind, owner.

0:32.4

I don't know what your title is behind Carrot Weather and a whole suite of other applications but I think it's it's safe to say

0:41.0

carrot weather is the flagship is that correct yeah it started with carrot to do the to do list

0:47.2

and basically made a new app every few months until I ended on carrot weather and that ended up being the most popular by far and

0:57.6

just took up all my time. And so I basically have to spend all my time now on Caret Weather.

1:03.3

And I'm stuck, stuck on it. I can't do anything else anymore.

1:09.5

It's the curse of success of the indie developer, right?

1:12.8

And I've seen this pattern for decades.

1:15.3

I was going to say years, but there are so many barebone software springs to mind where

1:21.0

barebones used to have more.

1:22.4

I mean, they still have yo jimbo a little bit, but it's sort of the BB edit company.

1:26.6

I could think of other examples. Tapbots

1:28.6

has a suite of applications, but their social media apps, tweetbot and Ivory sort of are the

1:34.9

the one that takes up all the time. So you did not set out for Carrot Weather to dominate your time

1:41.2

like it did? No, when weather came out or when I was working on weather

1:46.5

anyhow, I just thought that it was going to be another app and then I'd keep doing more and more

1:52.2

of them after that. I was honestly glad when it was that successful that I didn't have to keep making

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