Hello and welcome to this very special episode of Best Case, Worst Case and Real Crime Profile.

And I'm Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor, writer-producer of

Criminal Minds, and Bluebeard on Audible.

And with me today is...

Hi, everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor here on the best case,

worst case side of things. And we also have, for the real crime profile side of things.

Kathy Canning Mello, retired FBI profiler, and today we have a very special guest continuing

with her fascinating story, and she is. Meg Applegate. I am the co-founder and CEO of Unsilenced,

which is a nonprofit aiming to stop institutional child abuse in the triple teen industry.

So Meg, welcome back, and thank you for telling us last

week your story. And I mean, being abducted in the middle of the night, your parents are there,

this massive, this massive off-duty cop and his petite partner. And they take you, they take you, I mean,

forcefully. I mean, forcefully.

I mean, they definitely didn't.

Handcuffed.

Yeah, they wanted to handcuff you.

And then they took you to the airport and they flew you to Idaho.

And then we were locked into a hospital for six months.

And then shipped off to Montana.

Montana. Montana.

Where in Montana was it?

It was as far north as you can get in a place called Eureka, which is like right on the Canadian border.

...