431. Branding Secrets Your Firm Needs to Scale with Rory Vaden [Encore Edition]
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
Michael Mogill
5.0 • 539 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The scoreboard of media is not accuracy. The scoreboard of media is attention. |
| 0:08.0 | That's Rory Vaden, renowned keynote speaker, New York Times bestselling author, and the co-founder |
| 0:12.6 | of Brand Builders Group. That's why a lot of people who are experts, they go, well, I feel stupid |
| 0:17.5 | because I don't have a lot of followers. You don't need a lot of followers. You're not in a media model. |
| 0:21.9 | You're in a trust model. |
| 0:23.2 | You don't want to cheapen that just for more followers. |
| 0:35.3 | I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law firm growth company. |
| 0:40.1 | I've built my business through practice, not theory. |
| 0:42.9 | Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue |
| 0:46.8 | over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private |
| 0:51.3 | companies in America. |
| 0:52.6 | Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the |
| 0:58.0 | country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this |
| 1:02.5 | podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from |
| 1:07.4 | those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define |
| 1:11.2 | what it means to be a true game changer. |
| 1:13.3 | Today, we're revisiting one of our most popular episodes from the podcast where I sat down |
| 1:18.1 | with Rory Vaden to discuss why personal brands aren't just for YouTubers and TikTokers, how |
| 1:23.1 | leaders can develop and maintain trust with their audience over time and why reputation precedes |
| 1:28.0 | revenue. |
| 1:29.2 | You don't need to cheapen your brand. |
| 1:31.0 | You don't need to cheapen your expertise. |
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