Welcome to Seltzer Squad, the podcast about staying sober in the city with your host, Kate Sander and Jess Valentine.

Hey, Kate. Hi, Jess. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you?

Great. Today I want to talk about normies. Yeah, let's talk about normies.

And not like normies and the fact that, like, they can drink normally and that's really annoying to the rest of us.

But just we get a lot of people who want to support their partner who is in sobriety and recovery.

And so this is an episode for everyone else.

Yeah.

How you can show up for people in sobriety and recovery.

Yeah.

According to us.

So I feel like we have a lot

of listeners that are drinkers, but they listen to either be supportive for us or for their partner

or friend or family member or they're sober curious. But I think that that's something that we don't

really talk about a lot is. And I think it opens up the door for them to be a little bit more

accepting when somebody doesn't want to drink. Yeah, that's true. You know, like not give talk about a lot is. And I think it opens up the door for them to be a little bit more accepting

when somebody doesn't want to drink. Yeah, that's true. You know, like not giving people a hard time,

maybe because they are a little bit more aware and sensitive to like what people like us are going

through. Yeah, because like I never thought about that in the past. You know, when I was still drinking

and people were not drinking,

I would still be like, well, are you going to drink again? Yeah. What's wrong with you?

And it's just like not what people need when they're in recovery. And totally. Unfortunately,

it took me to getting sober to realize that. But it's great for the people that are doing the

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