Page 94, the Private Eye Podcast.

Hello and welcome to another episode of page 94.

My name is Andrew Hunter Murray, and this week we will be talking to Dr Grimm,

privatized human rights correspondent about the plight of the Uyghur Muslims in China

will also be having a historical retrospective about the life and times of Marsia

Williams, aka Lady Forkender, aka Lady Fork Bender, who was an incredibly powerful figure in

Harold Wilson's administration. She was very much the Alistair Campbell of

her day and as we will hear she was one of the people who kept privatised lawyers nice and busy

for a good number of years. Later on we'll be talking to Francis Wien and Adam McQueen about her,

but first, the Uyghur Muslims are an ethnic group who live in Xinjiang in China.

For some years they have been harassed, imprisoned and re-educated by the Chinese

government which is determined to stamp out the religious differences that make them who they are.

Dr. Grimm is privatised correspondent on matters of human rights and particularly human rights abuses.

I asked her first of all who the Uyghur are and where they live.

Xinjiang is a province of Western China, quite a large province, bordering a lot of other countries.

It's got 11 million Uyghur people in it who are Turkic Muslims and a fair sprinkling of Kazakh and

Kurga and other people too. It's about 36% Han Chinese and there's been a policy since well certainly since 2014 and more intensively

since 2016 of a sort of complete cultural repression and shutdown of the Uyghur people, which kind of is amounting to a sort

of cultural obliteration, silently with the world really, if they can see it it they're not responding to it really we're all

silent and no one's communicating in and no one's communicating out so these people

are sort of silently disappearing.

What form does that cultural obliteration that you described take?

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