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The New Evangelicals Podcast

426. Meet the Skeptic Pastor of Not Church

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Jeremy Steele, aka The Skeptic Pastor. Jeremy shares his journey from evangelical roots to a more open, inclusive spiritual community. He discusses deconstruction, the power of rituals, and how his online community 'Not Church' models a new way of spiritual connection beyond traditional boundaries. Chapters 13:32 The Evolution of Beliefs and Spirituality 16:54 Navigating Deconstruction and Reconstruction 22:32 Exploring the Not Church Community 26:47 Exploring the Digital Not Church Community 32:28 Building Bridges Across Beliefs 36:43 The Importance of Embodied Community 39:01 Rituals for Heretics: Reclaiming Spiritual Practices 47:00 Navigating Identity and Tradition 52:22 The Neuroscience of Spiritual Practices ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:21.8

Happy Monday to you.

1:23.3

We are in the middle of interfaith dialogue this month.

1:26.3

And this week I brought on pastor.

1:30.0

Nope, that's not right.

1:31.5

I brought on skeptic pastor.

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