425. Judaism is More Complicated than You Think

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Politics

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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**United Theological Seminary | ⁠https://bit.ly/united-tne⁠ ** ** Apply for the fall 2026 term by July 1** In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Shaul Magid, a Harvard Divinity School professor and expert in modern Jewish studies, shares his journey from post-war America to studying in Israel and becoming a scholar. The conversation explores the history of Judaism, Zionism, and the complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism, offering nuanced perspectives on faith, identity, and interfaith dialogue. Chapters 03:24 Shaul's Journey and Academic Background 19:06 Judaism as Ethnicity vs. Religion 30:50 The Evolution of Jewish Zionism 38:38 Zionism: Secularism and Religious Tensions 45:08 The Shifting Dynamics of Evangelical Support for Israel 50:43 Navigating Complex Conversations on Israel and Palestine ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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