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The Important Cinema Club

#424 - Ingmar Bergman Hated His Critics

The Important Cinema Club

Justin Decloux and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.7575 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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We return to Ingmar Bergman by discussing three of his so-called "Bad Filsm": ALL THESE WOMEN, THE TOUCH, and FACE TO FACE. Check out Matt Farley LIVE in London, England this week by seeing all of the movies Ben Nash is screening all over town: DON'T LET THE RIVERBEAST GET YOU (April 18, 2025): https://www.riocinema.org.uk/movie/dont-let-the-riverbeast-get-you/ MAGIC SPOT (April 19, 2025): https://wegottickets.com/event/652079 LOCAL LEGENDS (April 19,2025): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/motern-media-madness-local-legends-introduction-by-matt-farley-tickets-1305731039689?aff=oddtdtcreator Send us stuff like zines, movie related books, physical media or memorabilia c/o Justin Decloux, Unit 1010, 3230 Yonge St, Toronto, ON, M4N 3P6, Canada Join the Patreon now for an exclusive episode every week, access to our entire Patreon Episode back catalogue, your name read out on the next episode, and the friendly Discord chat: patreon.com/theimportantcinemaclub Subscribe, Review and Rate Us on Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…ub/id1067435576 Follow the Podcast: twitter.com/ImprtCinemaClub Follow Will: twitter.com/WillSloanESQ Follow Justin: twitter.com/DeclouxJ Check out Justin's other podcasts, THE BAY STREET VIDEO PODCAST (@thebaystreetvideopodcast), THE VERY FINE COMIC BOOK PODCAST (www.theveryfinecomicbookpodcast.com) and NO SUCH THING AS A BAD MOVIE (@nosuchthingasabadmovie), as Will's MICHAEL AND US (@michael-and-us).

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0:00.0

Hello, my name is Justin the Clu. I'm here today with Will Slawn. And you're listening to

0:08.7

the important cinema club. And today, we return to a subject that has been begging for us to

0:13.7

talk about him again, Igmarg Bergman. Nobody has ever talked about Ingmarg Bergman.

0:18.4

Never. And so we are filling the void. So we're going to have to change how we do this podcast. Today we'll be talking about Ingmarg Bergman and his film. Because that's how people, he's a very serious filmmaker that you don't usually hear people talk about it. It's like, hey, we're talking about Ingmar Bergman. You don't hear two dumb bozos. We're going to bring sound effects to this podcast. So Amor Bergman is one of the first directors we talked about on this podcast. We did an episode a very, very long time ago where we had our old friend Dan Barubei come on. Nice. Who guided us through, what did we talk about? We talked about the seventh seal probably and the serpent's egg. Yep. And I haven't gone back to listen. You know what, actually, I did a Michael and us episode on

0:59.0

the Serpentz egg like years after that. And I went back and listened to our episode then. And it

1:03.3

was really interesting because I completely forgot what I said. I had the exact same take on the movie,

1:08.6

except I was dumber and delivered it more poorly years earlier. Yeah. So I'm excited also. Were you maybe a little bit more succinct in the- Possibly. The important Cinema Club episode. I was just like, yeah, I didn't like it that much. Yeah, exactly. I like that scene where David Carradine jumped from really high. It's like a stunt from a Hong Kong movie. We had a little riff about the scene where you see his balls between his legs.

1:29.5

That's what you want. and jump from really high. It's like a stunt from a Hong Kong movie. We had a little riff about the scene where you see his balls between his legs.

1:32.3

That's what you want from a burg... The Balls in Bergman episode.

1:40.1

Ingmar Bergman, look.

1:41.7

He's good.

1:42.2

Yeah, he's good, folks.

1:43.6

Cries and Whispers, the Seventh Seal. Oh, his movies are boring. No, they're not. They're not boring. They can be funny. They're visually inventive. And shattering at times, emotional experiences. So on that note, we picked the ones people consider the worst. Now, I know that other listeners are writing in. And they're like, well, you didn't actually pick the worst ones.

2:02.5

His early films, yeah, those are boring.

2:04.5

We don't want to talk about, though.

2:05.2

We didn't want to talk about pre-smiles of a summer night.

2:08.1

And we also didn't want to talk about the serpent's egg again.

2:10.3

No.

2:10.6

I get the serpent's egg.

2:11.7

Yep, I got it.

2:12.8

So we talked about three movies that are considered either misfires or just lesser.

2:18.1

And hopefully, in talking about these movies, we will be able to illuminate something of what is great about him in addition to the moments.

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