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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

424. Common Ground on Climate and Nuclear Energy | Dr. Dennis Whyte

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 19 February 2024

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan Peterson speaks with nuclear fusion expert Dr. Dennis Whyte. They walk through how fusion differs from fission, the harnessable energy found at the center of the sun, how to recreate it on earth, the fourth state of matter known as plasma, and facing the consequences of technology while acknowledging that we must push forward. Dennis Whyte is the Hitachi America Professor of Engineering, and prior director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center at MIT (He stepped down in November 2023). Whyte is considered a leader and innovator in fusion research, and currently leads the project SPARC - a compact, high-field, net fusion energy fusion device. - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/ For Dennis Whyte: On facebook ​​https://www.facebook.com/mit.psfc/ On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mit.psfc/ On Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/company/plasma-science-and-fusion-center-at-mit/ On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@mitplasmasciencefusioncenter

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0:00.0

Hello everyone I had the privilege today to speak with Dr. Dennis White who like me is a

0:20.4

denizen of a small town in Western Canada, a small prairie town.

0:25.0

Be that as it may, he's also one of the world's foremost authorities on nuclear

0:29.6

fission and has been at the spearhead of both technical and commercial projects to make fusion technology a reality and fusion offers the opportunity essentially if it can be mastered of unlimited energy and potentially

0:46.2

at a low cost. So it's the ultimate and transformative technologies. We talked about the fact

0:51.2

too that the fusion revolution, which has been promised, let's say, for decades,

0:56.7

which isn't that long a time frame, all things considered, is now being facilitated by tremendous advances in materials technology and

1:05.8

and computational technology and that like just last year there was one

1:10.0

variant of fusion technology that produced for the first time more energy than it

1:13.8

consumed which is a milestone on the pathway towards true commercial viability and

1:20.0

so we talk a lot about exactly what fusion energy is, how it differs from standard nuclear

1:25.9

energy, where we are in the process to transitioning, let's say, to the kind of future that

1:31.2

would be endless clean energy at an extraordinarily low price, right?

1:35.3

And that really brings with it the possibility of lifting all the remaining poor people in the world

1:39.9

out of poverty if we could just get that right so it's fairly technical

1:44.0

discussion it'll be very appealing to you engineering as science types but for

1:48.0

everybody who's interested in the issue of energy more broadly and the science fiction

1:52.3

reality that the world is about to become, then follow along with us.

1:57.0

So thank you very much Dr. White for agreeing to talk to me today.

2:02.0

We might as well jump right in. I think the thing we could

2:04.3

do for our viewers and listeners that would be most useful to begin with is to tell

2:09.6

them, is for you to tell them what fusion energy is and how that differs from standard nuclear energy.

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