423 - Catholic Unscripted - Violence as the New Normal
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
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🗓️ 28 November 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | it's not that we want to advocate for violence. |
| 0:03.0 | But it is true that after World War II, |
| 0:07.0 | violence was in some ways eradicated from the public sphere |
| 0:11.0 | in every way. |
| 0:12.0 | And for most modern people wouldn't understand that 100 years ago, |
| 0:19.0 | police would not be involved in, let's say, home disputes, |
| 0:22.8 | like would not be involved in family squabbles, in family fights, |
| 0:27.2 | you know, that you were allowed to have a duel between two men and to kill each other. |
| 0:32.8 | And it would be, and you would not go to jail because you had agreed to have a duel. |
| 0:37.8 | All these things, you know, there is a way in which violence was far more organically integrated |
| 0:42.8 | into society. |
| 0:45.0 | It doesn't mean we're advocating for it, but like you said, if you suppress it completely in every |
| 0:49.5 | single way, and then you come to a point where you say things like, you know, words are violence and or silence is violence. |
| 0:58.0 | Can you imagine? |
| 0:59.0 | It's like not just words, but also silence. |
| 1:01.0 | Silence is violence. |
| 1:03.0 | Then you are asking for it. |
| 1:05.0 | Like in some ways you're asking for what's happened. |
| 1:07.0 | And so it comes to a point if you've equalized everything into violence |
| 1:11.3 | and that words are violence and opinions are violence, |
| 1:13.8 | then shooting Charlie Kirk is just like one for one, right? |
| 1:19.6 | It's like violence for violence. |
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