Welcome to the Burling Instincts Podcast.

I'm Dr. Stewart Fishbein, community-based practicing obstetrician and long-time advocate for birth choices.

And I'm Bliss Young, a licensed midwife.

Join us in our conversational style podcast where we talk about everything birth.

Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry, but we're happy that you're here. So here we go.

Hey, good morning.

Good afternoon, good evening, and good middle of the night.

Yes, but it's actually afternoon.

It's a Sunday afternoon.

And as, you know, those of you who are true followers and know our schedule, now that we usually record on Wednesday mornings, but Stu and I are traveling, and that's why you get to see us if you're on Patreon here together.

And we miss getting to sit side by side. So this is a fun treat for us.

And they get to see you at all.

But has had such technical issues sometimes when she's been in the hope. So yeah, it's really

nice. I flew out to Los Angeles. We had a whirlwind trip. I flew out there. My daughter

picked me up at the airport. We met Bliss for lunch. My daughter left, and Bliss and I got into Hope and headed toward Vegas. Well, Stu thought we could drive the whole thing in one day. And I said, I don't think so. And we didn't get to Vegas until after dark. So it was like nine something. After nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah.

It took four hours to get from L.A. to Victorville.

For those of you who know, LA, it's like it should be less than, it should be a two hour drive at most and it took four hours.

So.

Yeah.

Right.

And then hope doesn't go up hills really well either.

It takes her time.

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