Welcome to the bigger pockets money podcast where we interview Ron Curtis and talk about his journey from debt to

sprawling fledgling growing empire. Hello. Hello. Hello. My name is Scott trench and with me today is James Dainard from our sister podcast on the market.

Thanks for having me back Scott. I like hanging out with you talking about money. Yeah, always always very fun.

So thanks for things are coming back. James and I are here to make financial independence less scary.

Less just for somebody else to introduce you to every money story because we truly believe that financial freedom is attainable for everyone no matter when or where you're starting.

Whether you want to retire early and travel the world or go on and make big time investments in assets like real estate or start your own business

will help you reach your financial goals and get money out of the way so you can launch yourself towards your dreams.

James, I was really impressed with with Ron's journey from from debt to accumulating tens of thousands of dollars in wealth to house hacking to

building an empire. I mean, this guy is is on pace to take over the world one day and won't be that long in the distance.

It won't be in the two distant future when that happens. Yeah, he is addicted to the grind. I love it.

Like he's just going going going and then you know, and he actually made the best step. He really educated himself about debt rather than chasing the dream.

He figured out how to get to the dream first. Absolutely. Well, we have a new segment of the of the money show called the money moment.

Where we share a money hack tip or trick to help you on your financial journey and today's money moment is if your gas tank is running low,

avoid filling up on a Thursday according to new data from gas buddy. Gas tends to be cheapest at the beginning or end of the work week on Monday or Friday.

And tends to be the most expensive on Thursdays. I did not know that I was actually thinking about filling up today.

Today's a Thursday. I don't have to wait until tomorrow. Ron is a financial literacy coach who also works in real estate and as a full time job

in the government after smashing $10,000 in debt he created a real estate business which allows him mostly passive cash flow through leveraging VA's and AI.

Ron, I'm so excited to have you here on the bigger pockets money podcast. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here as well.

Awesome. Could you get started by telling us a little bit about yourself and maybe giving us a quick overview of your money story.

I great. Some of the names Ron Curtis. Some people like to refer to me as Dr. Financial. I'm born and raised in Washington DC.

I attended Virginia Commonwealth University, VCU Rams, Enrichment Virginia. I graduated with my bachelor's in human resource management, specializing in business.

I'm pretty much what I do now. I consider myself a nine or five manure. I have a full time job. I work for the DC government specifically with project management and contract.

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