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The Talk Show With John Gruber

419: ‘Podcasting Technology Cadence’, With MG Siegler

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2025

⏱️ 149 minutes

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Summary

MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about the drama surrounding Siri and Apple Intelligence.

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's on your mind, M.G? Anything happening in our mutual interest, like, in the last few weeks?

0:06.7

Not at all. I tried to, like, leading up in the sort of half an hour of time before we're chatting.

0:11.7

I'm trying to, like, go through the news, and I couldn't possibly get to it all. It's all happening in real time.

0:16.9

There's like, obviously, there's always new AI stuff rolling out, but then with

0:21.8

regard to Apple specifically, there's a lot going on. And some of the other tangential AI stuff

0:26.4

might end up being related to what's going on with Apple right now. So yeah, nothing going on.

0:32.8

I have had a bigger week than usual. I mean, I'm laughing. And I've, I've talked about it on dithering

0:40.6

a little. And it was nice. Like when I feel like podcasting works best for me, it's like it gets

0:49.1

some ideas unglued for me. And then I write them out out and when it works worst for me is when I feel like

0:58.8

well I got that out of my system on the podcast and then I never write it and I do I really do feel

1:04.9

I mean some people are so much better at podcasting than I am or just broadcasting in general

1:10.6

and those people are called like TV stars,

1:12.8

right? I am a writer who podcasts. And it's a thrilled to me and it's still a bit of a surprise

1:19.6

that so many people like listening to my podcast and I enjoy doing it. But it's like, if I haven't

1:24.7

written it and I haven't really gotten it out of my system.

1:28.9

I know that's true for you because you still have avoided the giant movement of putting the videos of these out there.

1:36.2

Right.

1:36.5

Yeah.

1:36.7

Everyone does now.

1:39.0

For you, YouTube is the biggest platform now.

1:41.3

Yeah.

1:42.2

And that's, yeah, I'm not like, I don't know, never say never. And I guess I could. I mean, I'm looking at you right now. I mean, we have video and I could just record it. They could see our lovely giant beards. And now they just. Yeah. And I guess, you know, I know a bunch of shows. I think this is what ATP does. I don't know. I don't listen to podcasts on YouTube, but I think there's some that instead of putting video of the talking heads, they just put album art up. People just like using YouTube as the audio player. That I could definitely do. I guess it would just add a little step. So I guess, you know, it's a shout out to, you know, if you're only going to listen on

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