I think we should switch over to Skype for old times sake.

We'd have the distinction of being the last podcast recorded on Skype.

Somebody's got to be the last.

I thought I was going to be the last.

I used it longer than most people because I'm a creature of habit and because, I don't

know, it just worked, you and because I don't know it just

worked you know what I mean and it was yeah well we were the same way yeah in fact you talked

about it on the on the website about how they kind of kick started the whole podcast industry but

it also for for creative types like us we used to have our weekly status meetings and stuff on a phone call.

And when Skype came around, we just latched onto that.

And it was great.

And eventually we moved over to Slack and came up with more modern ways of doing things.

But yeah, it was pretty transformative technology.

Yeah.

I talked about it on dithering a little bit.

If anything, I think what I wrote on Daring Fireball,

I undersold how much Skype and Skype alone pushed podcasting years ahead of when it would have happened.

Like, I don't know how the whole first run or two runs of the talk show

when I was doing it with Dan Benjamin. I really don't know that we could have done it without Skype.

I really don't. Certainly not 2006, 2007. Whatever option B was was terrible. In theory, we could have done something that sounded

terrible and just by relying on our local recordings for double-enders, the show would have

sounded all right. But it was something about the fact that the actual Skype quality was so

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