#419 — "More From Sam": Elon vs. Trump, Religion, Jordan Peterson, & Rapid Fire Questions
Making Sense with Sam Harris
Waking Up with Sam Harris
4.6 • 29.1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 June 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Sam hopped back on with his manager and business partner, Jaron Lowenstein, to talk about current events and answer some of the questions you all submitted on Substack. This episode was originally recorded on June 4th, but in light of today's events, Sam and Jaron recorded an additional segment (on June 5) about the latest news on Trump and Musk's fallout, which is included at the end of this episode. They also discuss the real results of DOGE, the Big Beautiful Bill, Jordan Peterson, the role of religion in modern society, and other topics.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Making Sense podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this, you're not currently on our subscriber feed, and we'll only be hearing the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense podcast, you'll need to subscribe |
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| 0:36.3 | Hey Sam, thanks for coming in so quickly. |
| 0:38.2 | We recorded an episode yesterday that was about to come out, and we discussed Trump and |
| 0:43.0 | Musk. |
| 0:43.3 | And in light of today's events, we decided to jump back in here. |
| 0:46.3 | So thanks for jumping in so quickly. |
| 0:48.1 | A few things have happened. |
| 0:49.4 | So I guess we're going to record an addendum now and then tack that on to the back of the episode |
| 0:53.9 | that was destined to arrive today. |
| 0:57.0 | Exactly. |
| 0:57.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:02.7 | Okay. We're back. Hey, Sam. How are you? |
| 1:05.1 | Hey, good to see you. Good to see you, too. Okay, we have a lot to get to today, but... |
| 1:09.9 | What's happening? Well, just a quick housekeeping before we do. I need to clarify some things. Okay, we have a lot to get to today, but what's happening? Well, just a quick |
| 1:11.3 | housekeeping before we do. I need to clarify some things. Many of, this isn't for you. This is for the |
| 1:15.8 | audience. Many in the audience have already picked up on this, but again, just to clarify, the goal of this |
| 1:19.8 | series is more from Sam on current events more often. My job here is to draw more energy out of Sam to surface his ideas in a format that's a little |
| 1:29.1 | looser than the podcast. So the tone will be more casual. If the pacing is faster, that's all |
| 1:35.2 | intentional. I'll sometimes play devil's advocate and even exaggerate positions. Whatever it takes |
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