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🗓️ 2 June 2025
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Sam Harris speaks with Congressman Ritchie Torres about the future of American politics. They discuss how growing up in public housing inspired Ritchie to pursue a career in politics, how the Biden administration became ideologically captured by the far-Left, how Democratic politicians are resisting Trump, why the Democrats should focus on governance rather than messaging, the war in Gaza, antisemitism on the Right and the Left, free speech on college campuses, Gen Z and hatred for America, social media, the importance of patriotism, the affordability crisis, AI and the future of work, potential Democratic candidates for the 2028 presidential election, and other topics.
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0:00.0 | I am here with Richie Torres. Richie, thanks for joining me. |
0:23.4 | It's an honor to be here. |
0:24.4 | It's really great to meet you. Finally, I've seen footage. That footage convinced me that |
0:30.1 | there was still some sanity in the Democratic Party, which there were moments there where |
0:34.8 | it really seemed like there was none. So thank you for insisting first. |
0:38.2 | I fear the mythology is more impressive than the reality. No, I don't think so. We're going to |
0:42.5 | we're going to get to the reality. So maybe you can summarize your background in politics. |
0:47.9 | How did you get here and what is your situation now in politics? I mean, the starting point for me |
0:53.1 | is the Bronx. I was born and raised in the Bronx, spent all of my childhood in poverty. |
0:59.0 | I was raised by a single mother who had to raise three of us on minimum wage, which in the |
1:03.0 | 1990s was $4.25 an hour. |
1:06.0 | And probably the most formative experience of my life was growing up in public housing, which |
1:11.2 | is owned and operated by the government. And in New York City, public housing is so savagely |
1:16.4 | starved the funding that it has a capital need of $80 billion in counting. So like hundreds |
1:22.2 | of thousands of tenants, I grew up in conditions of mold and mildew leaks and lead without |
1:27.1 | consistent heat and hot water in the winter. |
1:29.3 | And I got my start in politics as a tenant organizer because of my lived experience in public housing. |
1:35.9 | And then at age 24, I took the leap of faith and ran for public office. |
1:40.1 | I had no deep pockets, no ties to the party machine, but I just spent a whole year doing nothing but knocking on doors. |
1:46.5 | I went into people's homes. |
1:48.4 | I heard their stories. |
1:49.6 | And I won my first campaign on the strength of door-to-door, face-to-face campaigning. |
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