419. AMMA — The Harsh Truth About Leadership Nobody Wants to Hear

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0 • 539 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Most people want growth, but they surround themselves with people who quietly convince them to slow down. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill pulls back the curtain on what leadership really demands when the decisions you make are unpopular, misunderstood, or impossible to explain. From the hidden weight leaders carry to the emotional price of high standards, Michael breaks down why the toughest calls often define your future more than your biggest wins. If you have ever questioned whether doing the right thing was worth the fallout, this conversation will hit home. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why great leaders are often criticized for decisions no one else has the full context for How to deliver tough feedback without sacrificing trust, connection, or standards What it takes to stay focused on long-term growth without being influenced by complacent people If you want to rise above the noise, start by refusing to lower your standards for anyone. ---- 01:44 — How Michael and Jessica celebrate after the Summit with pizza, and an intentional return to routine the next morning. 04:06 — Why the reward for work done well is often greater responsibility and higher expectations. 05:22 — How human biology pushes us toward comfort and why resisting that instinct is essential for growth. 07:12 — How listeners consume the AMA in wildly different ways and why Michael keeps the show ad-free as a way to pay it forward. 07:50 — The part of leadership no one warns you about, where you make decisions others will not understand and still carry the blame. 10:18 — How holding someone accountable reflects deeper care than avoiding the hard feedback they need to grow. 13:22 — Why ego is often the biggest barrier to improvement and how people rationalize away criticism that could actually help them advance. 16:57 — Why your leadership style must align with your authentic values instead of whatever culture trend is circulating online. 21:26 — How the culture you build determines who you attract, who you repel, and the pace at which your organization can grow. ---- Links & Resources: Robert Herjavec Radical Candor by Kim Scott ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 275. Kim Scott — The Power of Radical Respect 245. Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations 25. Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to be a Kickass Boss

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0:00.0	People need someone to blame.
0:04.0	And more often than not, as the leader of your organization, when someone feels like something
0:08.6	isn't right, they need someone to blame and that someone is usually you.
0:15.0	I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.
0:22.6	I've built my business through practice, not theory.
0:25.6	Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,
0:30.6	earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.
0:34.6	Our approach has been to take everything we've learned
0:37.5	about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious
0:41.8	and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with
0:46.6	innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in
0:51.1	the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what
0:54.2	it means to be a true game changer.
0:57.2	This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script
1:01.5	for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on, choosing the long-term health
1:06.1	of your firm over short-term popularity, why the conversations you avoid are often the ones your team needs most,
1:12.5	and the difference between holding people accountable and pushing them away.
1:15.9	If you truly care about your people and you care about your team, then you're willing to deliver
1:19.4	the feedback that they need, and you're also willing to take the fact that some aren't going to
1:24.1	respond well to it and may not like you in that present moment.
1:28.0	That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.
1:40.3	All right.
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