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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

416. AMMA — How to Reinvent Yourself Without Starting Over

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Business, Entrepreneurship, Management

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Feel like you’re drifting through life on autopilot? This episode will snap you awake. In this AMMA edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three deeply personal questions around identity, distraction, purpose, and reinvention. From the erosion of our collective attention span to the fear of starting over in your 40s, 50s, or 60s, this episode explores why so many high achievers reach a point where they look around and wonder how much of their life reflects their choices versus someone else’s expectations. With candid stories, tough-love truths, and practical reframes, Michael and Jessica break down how to reclaim your time, rediscover who you are, and redefine what comes next. Here’s what you’ll learn: How constant distraction is destroying presence, relationships, and creative thinking, and what it takes to rebuild your attention Why it is never too late to pivot, rediscover your identity, or pursue something that truly lights you up What successful attorneys actually do in retirement and why some people struggle to walk away from the work that defines them If you have ever questioned who you are, where you are going, or what you truly want, this episode will remind you that it is never too late to rewrite your story. ---- 02:34 — Michael describes the collapse of human attention and why people are no longer present in their own lives 03:04 — How constant phone use destroys meaningful connection, even during everyday moments like dinner 05:39 — The moment Michael realized technology was reshaping his kids’ habits and what happened when he took the iPad away 06:49 — A challenge for listeners: try an entirely phone-free Thanksgiving and notice how differently you feel 09:58 — Why people wake up realizing they’ve built a life based on expectations instead of their own desires 12:14 — You are not starting over. You are pivoting with decades of experience and wisdom 16:23 — The danger of retiring without purpose and why people fall apart when they have nothing meaningful to do 17:31 — What Michael would do if he could “burn it all down” and start something completely new, and why he chooses not to ---- Links & Resources: Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life by Bill Perkins Jensen Huang ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 384. Break the Mold: The Blueprint for Radical Reinvention with Todd Herman 331. AMMA — Failure to Reflect is Failure to Grow: The Brutal Truth About Staying Stuck 237. AMMA — Breaking Out of Complacency: Transformation Through Innovation

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you're not fulfilled by what you're doing, it takes a lot of courage to change gears,

0:06.3

but I can promise you, if you feel the way you feel today and you don't do anything about it,

0:10.9

10 years from today, you're going to wish you did.

0:19.4

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:23.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:26.6

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:31.6

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:36.6

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth

0:40.0

within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law

0:43.8

from owners do the same for theirs.

0:45.7

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal

0:49.4

industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge

0:53.7

the status quo,

0:54.8

and define what it means to be a true game changer.

0:58.3

This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script

1:02.6

for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on, what to do when you realize

1:07.3

you've been living someone else's version of success, navigating the emotional

1:11.1

challenge of retiring when your work is who you are, and what to do when you feel the pool

1:16.3

to start something completely new. I want to be a video game designer. I want to write a screenplay.

1:20.8

I want to write a children's book. There's all sorts of things that I want to do, but it doesn't necessarily

1:24.3

require me to burn it all down. That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.

1:39.4

Here we are. Favorite time of every day.

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