Honestly, it just boils down to how much work you want to do. You have to outwork everyone else.

Like you said, I am Whitetail 24-7. We never come off the gas pedal.

On this week's episode of the White Tail podcast, we sit down with Caleb Griner, a guy who lives

and breathes White Tails 24-7 and proves that chasing upper end, top- tier white-tailed deer on permission in public

isn't luck it's a system i guess i'm just really good with trail cameras really good at putting

bindscapes up and i'm consistent with it i've got really good intel to go off of and i'm making

a list from a all the way down to z on bucks that i can target this episode, we cover why Intel is everything and how one camera can change your entire season. We discuss how to cast a net and build a hit list from A to Z. We're going to cover some unorthodox tactics that most guys aren't willing to do. So I hope you guys enjoy this conversation. Here we go. Caleb, welcome to the Whitetel podcast. How you doing? Doing good, man. We just wrapped up the Lamb podcast, and you're a full-time

white tail guy. That's what you do. And I encourage everyone to listen to that for someone that has a

slice of their own piece of heaven and how to improve it.

And we talk about a variety of different things.

But in this one, I want to dive into the tale of two cities.

You do live in Iowa and you manage some large farms, but you hunt public and permission.

And I think that there's this, I don't know how to describe it.

I don't know if I'd call it a phenomenon or ideology or misconception or, you know, people can fill in the blank there.

But this thought of like, man, I'll probably never own 40, you know, thousands of acres and the mecca of Iowa.

And you have proven you don't need to.

So we're going to dive into what your strategy is and this everything else.

So before we get too far into that, hopefully my introduction to you there is well enough.

But if I miss anything, feel free to chime it.

Don't hype me up too much, man.

I was telling you, in the Lane podcast, your video that was on Midwest Whitetail,

the 177 from like two years ago, anyone that hasn't watched that, I encouraged him to do so,

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