413: Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday & Tombstone w/ Mark Lee Gardner

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday were two complicated men whose steadfast friendship became one of the legendary relationships of the American West. Both were flawed, and often on uncertain moral ground, yet their bond carried them through the violent world of frontier justice, culminating in a deadly conflict with the Clanton-McLaury gang in Tombstone, Arizona. It's a story of two very different men who became linked forever by circumstance and loyalty. With his new book, "Brothers of the Gun: Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, and a Reckoning in Tombstone", historian Mark Lee Gardner offers a clear-eyed account of who Doc and Wyatt really were. He joins me to talk about their partnership and the lasting myths that have grown from a friendship rooted in both loyalty and survival. Mark's website: https://songofthewest.com/ More from his publisher: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/711805/brothers-of-the-gun-by-mark-lee-gardner/ Mark Lee Gardner on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3YOcr3okF0fjheNeOLpyzU Mark's Brothers of the Gun Western Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2jbh2Rl1fgD1ry8Ex1KM5W?si=4niAaWv7Tl2ESSYf_ZlnLQ Mark's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCNOVu3xJh6/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, listeners, and welcome once again to another episode of the Most Notorious Podcast.
0:05.9	Great to have you here. A quick note before we begin, I did an episode about Wyatt Earp in the gunfight at the OK Corral just over three years ago, episode 253, a very enjoyable conversation with Tom Clavin. I do occasionally repeat subject matter.
0:25.7	I'm always open to fresh perspectives and new research, and especially in regards to people
0:33.1	and places that have become iconic over time for good or for bad. Jack the Ripper, of course,
0:39.8	we've done innumerable episodes on that case, The Black Dahlia, Lizzie Borden, and now Earp,
0:47.0	Holiday, and their time and tombstone together. And honestly, I will never turn down an interview
0:53.6	with Markley Gardner. Occasionally, I will never turn down an interview with Mark Lee Gardner.
0:56.0	Occasionally, I become friends with authors I interview, and I definitely consider Mark a friend.
1:02.1	We communicate quite a bit with each other outside of setting up interviews.
1:06.6	We have yet to meet in person, but I am hoping next year at the 150th anniversary of the botched
1:14.8	Northfield bank robbery in Northfield, Minnesota, that Mark will be there.
1:20.5	I am certainly going to try my best to be, and we will have a chance to connect then,
1:25.4	and maybe I'll see you there as well.
1:29.0	Anyway, I'm always tickled to have Mark on the show.
1:32.5	Here we go again, another chat with Mark Lee Gardner.
2:06.7	Thank you. Well, it is so great to have Mark Lee Gardner back on with me, and I don't think he needs any real introduction. He's been on the show multiple times to talk about the Northfield Bank
2:13.8	Raid, Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, and the Battle of the Little Big Horn,
2:19.8	the Rock Island Train Robbery, the Life and Times of Billy the Kid.
2:24.4	He is one of America's great Old West scholars and authors,
2:29.3	and he has a brand new book out on November 11th called Brothers of the Gun,
2:36.7	Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, and a reckoning in Tombstone. Welcome back, sir. Always great to talk to you. Well, thank you, Eric,
2:42.8	and I'll have to say this is one of my favorite podcast ever. Well, thank you for that. And you
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