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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#413 — “More From Sam”: Trump & Israel, Corruption, Free Speech Violations, the Democrats, & Ezra Klein

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Sam hopped back on with his manager and business partner, Jaron Lowenstein, to talk about current events and answer some of the questions you all submitted on Substack. They discuss whether Jews in the U.S. are safer under Trump, due process rights and free speech, what Trump is doing to universities, the Trump family’s latest corruption scandals, Sam’s updated views on Bill Maher’s dinner at the White House, what Sam got wrong about wokeness and the 2024 election, Pete Buttigieg’s appearance on Andrew Schulz’s podcast, Gavin Newsom, and Ezra Klein.

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0:51.7

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast. This is Sam Harris. Today I'm answering some more questions that were submitted by subscribers on my substack page

0:54.5

and discussing some current events.

0:57.9

Once again, the voice you're hearing on the other end is that of my manager and business partner,

1:02.3

Jaron Lonestein.

1:03.4

We're hoping to continue this series of episodes.

1:06.3

So if you're a subscriber to the podcast, you can submit topics over on Substack. And if you're not a

1:12.6

subscriber, you can become one at samharris.org slash subscribe.

1:24.1

Most Jews I talk to tell me that they feel safer with Trump in office now. Why do you think

1:29.0

they're wrong? Well, admittedly, that's kind of a mixed story. I get it. If you're a single-issue

1:35.6

voter and your issue was Israel, I kind of understand that because Biden and Harris were making

1:42.9

noises that seemed guaranteed to make you uncomfortable.

1:47.8

Yeah, I mean, the moral confusion left of center about the war in Gaza and about Hamas and about

1:53.7

the whole peace process with the Palestinians, it's understandable that if that was your issue,

1:59.9

you thought virtually anything is better than that, right?

2:03.8

And Trump, you know, in his defense and in defense of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, first time around, did demonstrate some considerable support for Israel and, you know, moving the embassy of Jerusalem.

2:16.9

And then all of these things were big moves that other presidents hadn't taken.

2:20.9

The reason why Trump is not reliable is that he's not reliable.

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