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🗓️ 12 May 2025
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Sam Harris speaks with David Deutsch about quantum physics and current events. They discuss the “many-worlds” interpretation of QM, Schrödinger’s cat, constructor theory, quantum computing and whether it will ever be practically possible, recent developments in AI, the prospects of artificial super-intelligence, the alignment problem, antisemitism and the historical persecution of Jews, misconceptions about Israel, the future of the Jews in Israel and the West, and other topics.
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0:31.7 | becoming one. I am here with David Deutsch. |
0:38.3 | David, it's great to see you again. |
0:39.8 | Nice to be here again. |
0:41.3 | It's been a long time. |
0:42.3 | I didn't actually check to see when our last conversation was, but I think it was probably |
0:46.5 | about five years ago. |
0:47.6 | It has to be... |
0:48.7 | Well, is it that long? |
0:49.6 | Yeah, well, a lot has happened since. |
0:52.6 | Yeah, yeah. |
0:54.5 | History has been an eventful. |
0:55.8 | So I'm going to take us on a tour through many topics about which you are well |
1:01.4 | qualified to have strong opinions. |
1:03.1 | The first will seem intimately related as they relate to science about which you |
1:08.5 | have thought much. |
1:09.7 | But at the end, I want to talk about world events |
1:12.0 | and the explosion of anti-Semitism we've witnessed since October 7th, 2023. I know you're |
1:18.4 | connected to those topics as well. So you know, you and I've had at least two very long |
1:24.7 | podcast conversations where we dealt with mostly the topics in your second book, |
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