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let's get into today's episode.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Latterty Struggles.

This is your host, Valerie.

I am so excited to be here with two beloved friends of mine.

Hello, Jason Bergman and Jana Reese.

How are each of you doing today?

Great. It's an honor to be here. Hey, it's great to be here. And no, I am not in a tropical

place. She's got a beach background. Don't we love this era of Zoom dynamic backgrounds? Today,

I bring you these two wonderful people because by popular demand, I have been asked to talk about

this new call of Clark Gilbert to the Corm of the Twelve Apostles.

And so one of my spiritual gifts is I surround myself with really smart people.

And so I thought, you know what?

I don't think I'm actually the expert on this, but I know a couple people who I think have probably got some really interesting and insightful things to say. And so that is why I invited both Jason and Jana to come on here today. And they bring different perspectives. And so as we jump into this topic, I want to allow each of them to introduce

themselves to you because Jana, as many of you know, has such an amazing skill set. And she has

been such a contributor to our world because of her research. And we'll let her talk about that

for a second. Then I'll turn

the time over to Jason because he is actually a former faculty member at Brigham Young University.

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