Welcome to the Not Old Better Show, I'm Paul Vogel-Sang and this is episode number 412.

As part of our Smithsonian Associates author interview series, our guest today is a Pulitzer

Prize winning journalist, a contributing investigative reporter at the Washington Post

and author of the new book Citizen 865 the hunt for Hitler's hidden soldiers in America.

Debbie Sensepers new book delves into the hunt for Nazi war criminals who entered the United States after

World War II unbeknownst to American immigration authorities. Debbie Sensiber will be appearing at the Smithsonian Associates Program Thursday, December 5, 2019.

Details are available on our website and the title of her presentation is

delayed justice the hunt for Hitler's Hidden Soldiers in America.

Drawing on her new book Citizen 865 The Hunt for Hitler's Hidden Soldiers in America, Debbie Senzabir,

unfolds the harrowing wartime journeys of two Jewish orphans from occupied Poland who outran the Treravnicki men and settled in the United States

only to learn that some of their one-time captors had as well.

Debbie Senseper traces how a tenacious team of prosecutors and historians

sought to hold the Trevniqi men accountable for their crimes decades

after the wars and unraveling the details behind the most lethal killing operation

in World War II and battled to the present day to remove them from American soil.

In 1990 in a drafty basement archive in Prague,

two American historians made a startling discovery,

a Nazi roster from 1945 that no Western investigator had ever seen.

The long forgotten document containing more than 700 names helped unravel the details behind the most lethal killing operation in World War II.

In the tiny Polish village of Travniki, the SS set up a school for mass murder and then recruited a roving army of

foot soldiers, 5,000 men strong, to help annihilate the Jewish population of occupied Poland.

After the war, some of these men vanished,

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