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Unshaken Faith

#41 The Orange Scandal - When Christian Leaders Fail

Unshaken Faith

Alisa Childers & Natasha Crain

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Orange Curriculum is considered to be the most widely used Sunday school curriculum in the country. Last week, it came out that the founder, Reggie Joiner, and the CEO, Kristen Ivy have both resigned due to their admission of having an inappropriate relationship together. This came out just days before Orange's huge annual conference. These things can be rattling to those who have been somehow touched by the ministry in question, and by those who are connected to it by family or other relationship. In today’s episode, Natasha and Alisa talk about how to process the moral failings of leaders of Christian organizations and share three takeaways on how to process events like this. They also offer some hope they have for Orange going forward.

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Natasha Crane, and I'm Elisa Childers.

0:05.0

Welcome to Unshaken Faith, where we equip you to live your Christian faith

0:11.0

boldly in a chaotic culture. Orange curriculum is considered to be the most widely used Sunday school curriculum in the country.

0:32.0

In fact, Natasha and myself along with widely used Sunday school curriculum in the country.

0:32.8

In fact, Natasha and myself, along with our friends Monique Disson

0:36.2

and Krista Bontregar did a lengthy live stream a couple of years ago

0:40.4

where we discussed the issues at length with what is at best a character-driven but

0:44.6

doctrinally shallow curriculum but at worst an intentionally deceptive

0:49.2

curriculum created by progressive Christians to get Progressive ideas into kids ministry.

0:55.0

We'll let you decide if you want to go back and watch that it's called

0:58.0

When a National Kids Ministry starts promoting Progressive Ideas.

1:02.0

So definitely check that out on YouTube.

1:04.6

Well, last week it came out sadly

1:06.7

that the founder, Reggie Joyner, and the CEO, Kristen Ivy,

1:10.7

have both resigned, and this was due to their admission of having an

1:14.3

inappropriate relationship together. Now this just came out days before Orange's

1:18.6

huge annual conference and interestingly it's really not quite received the massive attention that I thought

1:25.2

that it would receive but we still want to talk about how to process the moral

1:28.7

failings of leaders of Christian organizations because these things can be rattling to those who have somehow been

1:34.5

touched by the ministry in question and by those who are connected to it either by

1:38.7

family or by relationship. So today we want to share three takeaways on how to process events like this but also we have some hope and we want to

1:47.7

Express some hope that we have for orange going forward, but first our tips of the week and an important

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