#409 - Is it ethical to kill and eat animals?

The Free Man

Ben Coomber

Self-improvement, Education, Science, Natural Sciences, Business, Entrepreneurship

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🗓️ 21 March 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

I've avoided this topic so far mainly because it’s such an emotive one, in fact it's the main reason many become vegan, and I respect that. Although there is always another side to the story, and the argument around eating animal products often descends into insults far too quickly for it to become a productive discussion. When it comes to our food system we need to ensure it develops in a way that is sustainable and conducive to our future health and that of the planet, and so these difficult discussions need to be had. This show doesn't seek to promote an anti-vegan stance and convince anyone of anything, but it does seek to articulate why many feel that eating animals isn't something they find morally objectionable, so that we can hopefully move past this roadblock and find points of agreement to work towards. Along the way we look at where our morals and ethics come from, whether they are innate, and what that means if they are, and we hope this starts a dialogue between two camps that agree on a lot, despite some stark differences.

4.10 Why do people believe what they believe (Vegans & Carnivores)
6.40 If you’re vegan and listening…..
8:00 The evolution of eating meat
9:40 Is It morally correct to eat meat
12:30 Issues in the meat industry
13:10 what is normal. Moral Intuition. How we find answers in different camps
21:28 Hope and Glory
25:58 Activist vegans – Loud voices. (If you eat meat you’re a bad person)
29:25 The only way to move forward for carnivores & vegans
32:00 Left wing or Right wing,
39:00 Bens summary
40:00 Where do you sit, Tom helps define your morals.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, Vancouver Radio. So this is going to be a very different show and a conversation
0:07.0	that people have been asking a lot about. So I did Viganuary, I narrated my experience on YouTube, lots of people followed, got picked up by Sky News.
0:19.0	It was a very interesting journey because that was all a big surprise.
0:22.0	And one of the things I didn't discuss throughout
0:24.4	this whole process was the ethics of a vegan diet. I purposely wanted to stay away from the argument
0:31.6	and from the discussion because for me it's something that
0:35.1	generally sits very black and white in people's mind. You either believe the
0:40.6	the killing of an animal for food or taking produce from an animal for food or
0:46.4	maybe wearing it as well is a bad thing and other people would you know disagree and that's why some of us are omnivores and some of us are vegetarians or that is part of the argument.
0:59.0	And I suppose I needed to be a point in time where we were ready to have a proper conversation
1:04.6	about this because you don't want to muddle it into everything else.
1:08.0	I was exploring the vegan diet from a health perspective, from a sustainability perspective.
1:14.2	And even as I started to get into the sustainability argument,
1:18.6	it became so many layers deep,
1:21.0	and the data started to confuse itself and it's like anything like these
1:26.2	conversations really do deserve a good conversation they aren't a social media
1:31.3	post like that is absolutely ridiculous now one of the things we did do is we
1:36.5	we try to go out and reach a few people that are prominent in this space we got got a few, yeah, love to come on the show, but when it came to actually
1:46.9	sort of organizing the interview, it didn't happen. So we're hoping that actually this interview
1:51.5	maybe stimulates people to come forward and talk to us about it because me and Tom's here with me today
1:59.4	Me and Tom are not going to sit here and say that this is our opinion.
2:03.4	We're going to give an objective account of how we see it.
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