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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

409. AMMA — Why You Feel Empty After Hitting Big Goals

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Business

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

What if hitting your biggest goals is the very thing that makes you feel lost? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill unpack what happens after the win — when the goal you worked years to achieve doesn’t deliver the fulfillment you expected. From the emotional crash that follows major milestones to the deeper search for purpose that defines lasting success, Michael shares a personal perspective on how to realign your ambition with meaning before burnout takes over. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why achievement alone can’t sustain fulfillment and what your brain is really craving after success How to redefine progress so you stay challenged, inspired, and connected to a greater purpose What it takes to build a vision so big it reignites your drive and gives your goals meaning again You’ve conquered the mountain. Now it’s time to discover what comes next. ---- 06:30 – The danger of comparing your success to what you see on social media 07:46 – Why balance is possible, but only after you’ve earned it 09:46 – The price of success and the unseen sacrifices behind every highlight reel 12:32 – How to weigh big opportunities against their personal cost 14:06 – The story of Rick Moranis and redefining success around family and values 16:16 – Why achieving major goals can leave you feeling empty 18:57 – How to reignite your drive by setting a bigger vision that makes an impact ---- Links & Resources: Die with Zero by Bill Perkins  Rick Moranis Honey, I Shrunk the Kids Tony Robbins ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 329. Crush Goals, Not Excuses: Turn Empty Resolutions Into Results 317. Crushing Mediocrity: The Art of Setting and Meeting Higher Expectations 230. How To Achieve Bigger Goals

Transcript

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0:00.0

People would be a whole lot happier if they focused on their own lives and instead of trying to document their life through a camera to actually be physically present wherever they are.

0:15.0

I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:21.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:24.6

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:29.6

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:34.6

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and

0:41.2

committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down

0:45.6

with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive

0:50.1

in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

0:56.0

This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Crisp, and today we're flipping the script for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on,

1:04.0

the systems that turn 60-hour work weeks into sustainable growth, how to evaluate lottery ticket cases without losing your sanity, and how to create

1:12.6

a practical playbook for aligning profit with purpose. A lot of times it's not even about you. I have found

1:17.9

that sometimes when you've met your needs, the thing that at least excites me is how many people

1:22.1

can you take with you? That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.

1:39.0

All right, here we are for another AMMA.

1:40.2

Let's do this thing. I'm excited for this AMMA because we are on the cusp of the Game Changer

1:45.9

Summit happening next month. But it's also, it is Q4 where the magic happens, right? Like this is

1:53.4

like in sports and in business. The fourth quarter, like a lot can happen in Q4. And, you know,

2:00.0

we talked about this even on previous podcasts. Like at the start of the year, what's your game plan for this year, that you already kind of planted out the year prior, like what you set out to do, like new year, new you, 2025 is going to be your year. And then we had kind of the mid-checkpoint, the end of Q2, saying, all right, we're about the halfway point, the 50-yard line.. Are you aligned what your targets are and are you on track for where you wanted to be in terms of your firm and your life and your health, et cetera? And, you know, a lot of times as we get to Q4, a lot of things are off track. Yep. Meaning that there's a lot of things that you wanted to go a certain way, but you did not

2:35.0

anticipate that you would have the obstacles that you would have, right? And this is true for pretty much everyone, including us, right? Like when we anticipate, you know, kind of project for the year ahead, there's certain things you want to do and things you want to achieve, but you don't know what all the roadblocks will be ahead of time. And you don't know what, you know, essentially what is a barrier that you

2:55.8

haven't experienced yet that you will experience? That's just life. Yes. And how you navigate

3:01.6

to that, maybe you've been extremely adaptable, resilient, and you've come out ahead. Maybe you're a bit

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