Hi, I'm Helen and I'm Sarah and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast, a weekly show where we talk about the ins and outs of work and try to give you a little bit of confidence with what you might be going through, a bit of clarity to help you take actions and lots of tools to make it easier.

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amazingif.com, or go into the show notes and you'll find the links there. And so today we're

talking about ambition. And it's a topic that I talked to Shelley Archon

Bow about back on episode 182. And she wrote a book called Unapologetically Ambitious. And as soon as I

saw that title, I was like, I want to read that book, like great title for a book. But we've never

really dived practically into ambition in a squiggly career, what it

means, why it matters and the actions that you can take. So we're bringing our usual squiggly

career usefulness and practicality to what is we've discovered quite a big topic as we've started

to talk about this. So I think ambition in a ladder like world when that's how we all

saw our careers in some ways was more straightforward because ambition just looked like

climbing the ladder. It was about job titles, levels, you know, the roles that you wanted to do

and almost the further up the ladder you were, the more ambitious you were.

And that felt like you were sort of winning in the kind of world of work versus other people.

I think in our squiggly careers, ambition means something a bit different.

I think it is much more about, well, what are your personal ambitions?

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