406: Gabriel Sherman's "The Apprentice" – Trump, Cohn, and a Legacy of Monstrous Deceit
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🗓️ 24 October 2024
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Gabriel Sherman discusses his new Trump biopic, The Apprentice, and the toxic bond between Roy Cohn and a young Donald Trump. He reflects on how Cohn’s influence shaped Trump’s political tactics and character, revealing a dark legacy of manipulation and corruption. Sherman also offers insight into the behind-the-scenes struggles surrounding the film, including Trump’s ultimately unsuccessful efforts to block its release—yet another predictable, calculated move.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, folks, today on the Lincoln Project podcast, we have a rare spoiler alert. |
| 0:03.7 | Our guest today is Gabriel Sherman, the author of the phenomenal new movie The Apprentice, |
| 0:08.8 | which is about Donald Trump's younger years and his relationship with Roy Cohn, who shaped |
| 0:13.1 | Trump's path to power and Trump's dark, twisted and, frankly, evil soul. |
| 0:18.4 | But if you have not seen the movie yet, be advised. This contains heavy spoilers. And I mean |
| 0:24.7 | a lot of heavy spoilers. If not, let's go. Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is |
| 0:31.4 | well trained, well equipped and battle-hardened. There is not a liberal America and a conservative |
| 0:37.1 | America. There is the a liberal America and a conservative America. |
| 0:38.0 | There is the United States of America. |
| 0:42.9 | Good night. |
| 0:43.8 | And good luck. |
| 0:44.9 | Hey, folks. |
| 0:45.4 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. |
| 0:46.9 | Our guest today is Gabriel Sherman. |
| 0:48.5 | He is the author of the tremendous new film, The Apprentice. |
| 1:02.3 | Yeah. of the tremendous new film, The Apprentice. Yes. |
| 1:03.2 | Hello. |
| 1:03.8 | This is Donald Trump from Mr. Cohn. |
| 1:06.0 | Thank you so much. |
| 1:06.9 | Donald, who? |
| 1:07.6 | One, two, three. |
| 1:13.6 | Roy Kahn. nice to meet you. |
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