20 years ago the risk aversion level of going on call her daddy or Howard Stern

in a campaign would have been through the roof. You could, it was a firing offense to suggest it 20 years ago.

But I think she's been so capable about it, you know, again,

call her daddy was a master stroke. That is going to reach 15 to 25 million

listeners, which, you know, a CNN interview is going to reach a quarter of a

million people tops out a good night. Isn't that crazy? Your task will not be an easy

one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped in battle. will not a

a liberal America and a conservative America,

there is the United States of America.

And good luck. Hey, folks, welcome back to Lincoln Project Podcast.

I am Rick Wilson.

I am delighted to be joined today by entrepreneur Stern School Professor pivot with

Kara Swisher Prothchy Podcasts, Profchy Markets, No Mercy, No Mouse. The man is

ubiquitous in the podcasting space. He is one of the smartest observers of our culture and a business that I can think about.

I'm so happy to you join us today, Scott. Thank you for coming on the pod.

Rick, it's so good to be with you.

Thanks for having me.

So I wanted to start out by, because you don't have enough podcasts, a problem I'm beginning

to be familiar with, you just started a new one with our friend Jessica Tarlov from Fox.

Talk to us about raging moderates for a second because I'm fascinated with the perspective you're

getting from that new experiment.

So thanks, that's a generous question.

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