If the tapes they seized are the same or worse than that tape that was leaked with him violently

attacking his girlfriend, I think is going to be pretty damning evidence.

People knew that they were praying on others, but it was like an open secret and everyone was afraid.

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Hello and welcome the best case worst case.

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profileer,

former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of Criminal Minds,

Bluebeard, and FBI profilers on Audible.

And with me today is...

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes,

former state and federal prosecutor

and producer and writer of I-Heart radios playing dirty sports scandals,

as well as a whole host of Audible series like Next Level featuring Brian Branch

and Breaking Justice the Kane-Valescu story.

And also, if I'm not mistaken, invisible life and death on the reservation.

I listened to that again recently and really have to commend you, Francie, who and

Tim and the others that worked on that, in that it was an amazing story of a really somehow resilient indigenous woman who lost two of her daughters.

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