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404 | Coco Krumme: The False Promise of Optimization - Plus, Saagar & Marshall on the Biden Presidency

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The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Today's episode of The Realignment is a two-parter. First, Saagar and Marshall discuss the show's recent coverage of the Biden administration and the anniversary of the Afghanistan withdrawal, and then answer Supercast subscriber-exclusive Q&A. Afterwards, Coco Krumme, joins Marshall to discuss her new book: Optimal Illusions: The False Promise of Optimization. Coco and Marshall discuss the costs of hyper-optimization, everywhere from supply chains to personal devices, how balance efficiency and resiliency, and the current state of Silicon Valley.

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0:00.0

Marshall and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

0:03.5

[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

0:08.6

We're doing something a little different today.

0:11.3

A bunch of folks wrote in with questions from me and Saga

0:15.1

to go over and have a bit of discussion on. We're going to focus on both the

0:18.6

Afghanistan pull out, the anniversary, especially as this episode is coming

0:22.0

after my 11th anniversary yesterday and the broader discussion of

0:27.1

Joe Biden's presidency that comes out of my interview with Franklin 4.

0:31.9

Around halfway into that discussion, we're going to transition to the supercast

0:35.7

exclusive edition of the conversation. We will respond to

0:40.2

supercast subscriber Q&A. If you would like to hear the full version of that

0:45.6

conversation, you can go to realignment.supercast.com or click the link at the top

0:51.1

of the show notes. And then, after that, whether or not you are a supercast

0:55.5

subscriber, I had a great interview with Coco Krum. She is a

0:58.7

really interesting author who is looking at this issue of optimization

1:02.4

and how a society focused on optimizing everything to death

1:06.0

actually created a bunch of problems and vulnerabilities.

1:09.2

It's definitely not a policy book. It's more of a theoretical meditation,

1:13.5

which I think is great to add to her rotations of focusing on this

1:17.2

efficiency issue. So, I hope you all enjoy both this

1:21.6

discussion episode, the Q&A, if you are a subscriber,

1:25.5

and of course, my interview with Coco. Marshall and Saga here, we're doing our

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