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Welcome to Crawl's Beasts. I'm Tim, here to stay with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. Well, listeners are doing fantastic. The guests that we have on.

They have such a great chemistry. They play off each other really well.

We've gotten to know them really well over the past few years at this point,

because Jane Boroski is a subject of season one of our new show, Dark Valley.

But before we go on into that, Tim, I have to know for my own personal knowledge, how are you today?

I'm doing great. Thanks a lot for asking. And yes, very excited about this conversation here that we had with Jane Boroski and Amanda and Drew Bedard.

Of course, they are the team behind the Invisible Tears podcast, which you can check out at invisible-tears.com.

And of course, Jane and Amanda have appeared on the new Crawl Space Media Podcast called Dark Valley,

which we'll be speaking about in this conversation. And you should be listening to, if you're not already,

but I'm guessing most of you are. And we also just want to let you know that we'll be playing an episode of Invisible Tears on the Crawl Space Feed

after this episode, this interview with the trio behind Invisible Tears, because they have been recapping Dark Valley.

And so the next episode on the Crawl Space Feed will be an episode of Invisible Tears speaking about one of the episodes of Dark Valley.

Hopefully that's not too much for you. It'll all be very well explained in this conversation.

It's like the Marvel Universe, Tim. It's like worlds intersect and worlds can coexist.

But we coexist with Invisible Tears in the way where Dark Valley is the investigative podcast, in a sense,

whereas Invisible Tears is more of the healing process for people who have been victims of attacks, who have family members, who have lost loved ones.

Jane is probably one of the best people that we know to speak to, how you can get through the PTSD of this.

Be honest with yourself, know that you win through some really terrible things, and then come out on the other side, a much more well-rounded, incredible person.

So that's Invisible Tears in contrast to Dark Valley. Definitely check that out.

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