I know some people think it's crazy that we only hunt one to three times every year, but we just feel like the hunts that we do go on, they're so productive. And it's so we see what we want and we shoot what we want. I'll tell you this much. And over 30 years of owning this place, there's only two bucks I didn't kill all the years that I targeted. If I go and I don't shoot that buck on that given day

that I picked, you know what it usually is? It's not that I didn't see him. I just didn't get the

shot I wanted. And if I go the next day, if it's still going to be that same temp, he'll come in,

I'll kill him.

All right, we finished up the first White Tail Cribs recording of 2026.

We're on 40 acres off the grid cabin.

We're in a room, two rooms full bucks.

And I am with Jeff Helmers and Catherine Howland.

And so there's a lot of excitement right now because it's about to be full,

full fled shed season.

It is habitat time where people are like, man, sat and had not the best season or I recognize

some things I could drastically improve.

And we just yesterday, the Lane podcast went live.

And I mean, this property went from, no offense, zero to hero.

You know, like where there was hardly any bucks to where you guys have target bucks every single year with very, very, very high success rates.

How did that happen?

Making a property better than what it was. Plain and simple. Yeah.

I mean? And like you said, right now is the time if you need to make improvements when this

weather gets to be 45 degrees of warmer, that's a great time to be in there doing what you need to do.

Personally, all winter long, I don't really go out on my property much because I don't want to push my deer on. When we had those temperatures of 23 and 25 below zero, I don't want my deer to waste any energy. Yeah. Because I need to get them into spring in as healthy condition as I possibly can. So I come to the cabin, but that doesn't mean I go out on the property. Yeah. I leave my deer alone in the winter. I really do. So how do you balance getting projects done and not wanting to bugger your deal? I wait until the temperatures are better. That's just what I do. You know what I mean? And like in my sanctuary, I usually only go in there once, maybe twice if I need be, and make a few adjustments and then get back out. So there's years that I might go in there and work for an hour or two,

and there's years that I might go in there for four or five hours. But once I go in and out, that's it. I'm done until next year. How big is your sanctuary? Anchorage West. 30 of my 40 is sanctuary. Okay. Mm-hmm. It's important. And I realized a long time ago, the more sanctuary I had, the more deer I could keep.

And that's really why I expanded, the more deer I could keep. And that's

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