You know, all of us have been in the skill trades for years now. We've seen how it's evolved.

And I know that's how we connected last time was about the stigma within the skill trades.

We've watched that and it's, it's changing drastically.

Welcome back to Modern Craftsman Podcast, where today we are switching things up with our first guest in a very long time.

Most people know Michael Holmes through television, through the Holmes name, through rescue

work, through construction. But what interested us most about this conversation wasn't

television or celebrity or even building just so happened to be

identity what does it actually feel like to inherit a name that already means something before you've

had the chance to fully define yourself because while most people spend their lives trying to build

a reputation mike was born into one.

And with that comes opportunity, expectation, pressure, scrutiny, and the constant challenge

of figuring out what parts of your life are truly yours.

This conversation became less about construction and business and more about meaning.

About trying to create a life that feels fulfilling

outside of public perception about balancing family legacy with personal happiness about

craftsmanship pressure mistakes expectations and the pursuit of something deeper than success

we talk about growing up around instability and rebuilding,

the weight of carrying a last name people already associate with trust, learning where his

own voice fits into this industry, and what kind of work and life actually makes him feel content

today. This wasn't a conversation with a TV personality.

It was a conversation with a builder trying to carve out a meaningful life for himself

while carrying the weight of a legacy that millions of people already feel connected to.

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