This is the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast, Show 40, where we interviewed Joe Saul

Cai from Stacking Benjamin's.

And for anybody listening, starting out, to start out on the right foot, to build those habits

early, I mean, some of the biggest things people do when they first start out is

they decide very quickly how to get into debt. I used to talk a lot at high schools and

it was funny that they have these question-and-answer sessions and every single question was a variant on

how the hell do I get myself screwed by the time I'm 21 right? It's time for a new

American dream one that doesn't involve working in a cubicle for 40 years, barely scraping

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or discover new paths for wealth creation. You're in the right place. This show is for anyone who has

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How's it good everybody? I'm Scott Trench and I'm here with my co-host Miss Mindy

how you doing today Mindy?

I'm doing great Scott. How are you today? I am doing fantastic. I'm very excited to

interview Joe who's got a just incredible charisma and energy about him and

a host of the Stacking Benjamin's podcast and over

there at stacking benjamins.com which is one of my favorite podcasts and just like a really fun time

with a lot of insider jokes that is addicting personality and show.

So yes, I love stacking measurements.

I listen to this show when I'm working around the house, most typically when we're

cleaning up the basement or cleaning out the garage.

So we throw on a couple of episodes of stacking measurements as we're cleaning up, and it's just,

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